Talk:Template feedback

From Wikimedia Usability Initiative

This is a place to put feedback about collapsible templates in the wikitext editor.


Well, I've seen it working before and it looks great when it does. However, right now it's completely broken - how's that for helpful feedback? :-) Witty lama 07:20, 16 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hover over text

The collapsed templates buttons should have hover over texts that show what they do. One is "Expand template" if closed and "Collapse template" if expanded. The other is "Edit template".--Diaa abdelmoneim 08:07, 16 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

template name

template name in box?--Shizhao 12:52, 16 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

How to deal with parameters without names?

How to deal with parameters without names, such as {{{1}}} , {{{2}}}?

And some templates are very complex, needs to have an explanation. So please place a 'help' tab on the top of the dialog box. --121.77.154.202 00:27, 17 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Many infobox templates have comments which explain what does the parameter mean. As a start the edit window could add this somewhere below the input. Have a look at how Mediawiki FCKeditor displays help. FCKwiki has some other issues, but displaying a page of a template should be helpful for users in most cases. --Nux 11:06, 18 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

'=' mark in unnamed parameters

If you edit (via the dialog) a template with an unnamed parameter (say, {{link|http://example.com/}}) and put a = sign in the parameter (say, http://example.com/index.php?foo=bar), the template editor will return {{link|http://example.com/index.php?foo=bar}} when the correct result should be {{link|1=http://example.com/index.php?foo=bar}} (note the 1= at the beginning of the parameter) to avoid interpreting the parameter value as a key=value pair. --Tgr 16:55, 17 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

displaying short templates expanded

I think most if not all short templates should be expanded by default or at least by preference. It looks kinda awkward if the text says "'''Boston''' (pronounced Audio-IPA)". Further more most short templates are pretty much self-explainable as "{{Main| History of Boston}}". I think all 2-3 parameter templates could be unfolded by default and more settings could by available in the preferences (e.g.: unfold all templates that have X parameteres, fold all templates that have more then X characters, fold old templates containing new lines). Also something like "always fold/unfold this template" in a drop down menu would greatly benefit this feature. This could be stored in cookies or localstorage or something like that. --Nux 11:26, 18 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

My two cents

A question. Template parameters which exist in the template code, but are not included in the article syntaxis, are they shown? I think they must be shown in grey color.

Also, a brief description in the inputs text when they are empty would be useful to explain what value is expected.

And... can this feature be applied for tables? Emijrp 21:00, 18 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

A different look?

Am I the only one who doesn't like the look of those buttons in the middle of the monospaced text? Have you considered something more "backwards-compatible"? Perhaps something like:

Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet<ref>{{cite web|}}</ref>, consectitur adipiscing elit.

With the "…" being a link to the expanded version, either the form version or directly in the wikitext (according to the user preference, perhaps in the form by default). What do you think? --Waldir 12:55, 22 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not accessible to keyboard

The design and feel is great. But accessibility-wise it needs some work. One cannot use "Tab" to reach the button to expand the links. 89.217.47.179 00:21, 23 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

What about serial templates?

Apart from normal templates, there are also serial templates and template pairs.

The serial templates may be confusing, such as w:Wikipedia:Route diagram template. I think they should be collapsed together to avoild mistaken editing by new users.

And for template pairs such as w:Template:Nowrap begin and w:Template:Nowrap end, I think we should use different icons to distinguish the begin templates and the end templates from normal tamplates.

--121.77.155.111 10:42, 11 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

General Feedback to Capsules

  • As available here [1]
  • First of all, I like what is being done here. Keep up the good work.
  • General feedback
    • I use Firefox 3.6.8. on Windows 7
    • Captcha should be next to the Save/Publish/What-ever button. Publish does not work.
    • Links to single sections/subsections is a great idea.
  • Feedback to capsules
    • The button "test". It is not clear to me when it should come up. Directly, after hitting "{{test", that, of course, would be great.
    • Klicking on the arrow does work.
    • Klicking on the button itself to have the Wizard open up, does not work. I would be very interested in that wizard.
      • It would be great if such a wizard would not only show a short description of the template but also of its parameters.
      • Maybe it can even automatically recognize what kind of parameter types to be given (e.g., number, string, date).
      • And maybe such a wizard could even be called directly from the rendered page, so that, similar to editing on single sections, the users can edit single templates.
    • In a way, I do agree to some people arguing about having a button directly in monospaced text. I also would prefer to have such usability functions less directly integrated in the wikitext but more "attached" as superscripts/subscripts or buttons at the side (similar to eclipse editor). By that, the user would more easily understand, what such usability functions intend to do: helping the user to get an overview of and eventually write their own wikitext.