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On the Strategic planning wiki there are many proposals... Nemo 21:53, 19 August 2009 (UTC)Reply

When I open Wikimedias' top, it's good that cursole (focus) is on "Search" textbox.

(Firstable I apologize my poor English) I'm Wikipedia Japanese's heavy user. Always I'm thinking "when I open the Wikipedia Japanese's toppage, it's better that cursol (focus) is in the "Search" textbox". I think it thinking maybe good for the all Wikimedia projects.--Akkeyyyy 09:29, 9 October 2010 (UTC)Reply

Feedback forums?

I received an invitation to use the Beta interface on Wikipedia and clicked on "yes." It has links for "feedback" and "Leave Beta" but not one that's about the beta. Is this the right place?

Is there a way to ask questions or to give feedback? The feedback form that's part of the beta interface seems useless.

My questions are

  1. When I signed up for the beta it switched my skin from monobook to Vector. Is this planned to be the default interface for everyone at some point?
  2. Related to #1 is just what is being beta tested? Is this just a new skin, the editor toolbar, or is there more under the skin that's also part of the beta test? Marc Kupper 00:22, 21 September 2009 (UTC)Reply

Thanks MarcKupper for your thoughts and for trying our Beta. If you click on "Beta Feedback" you should have our survey that is related to the Beta where you can leave your comments and ask questions not covered on the short survey. In the survey, we are mostly looking for people's impressions, issues, likes, and dislikes of the new skin and toolbar. We will be conducting a more in depth evaluation of the beta with in-person interviews in our San Francisco offices this October, but since this will be limited to a very small number of recruited users, we are using the survey to get a much broader range of feedback from users and Wikipedians.

As of right now, Vector is not the default skin, but it is something that is being discussed internallly and in the community already - for more, please see the discussion here. --Parul Vora 22:19, 24 September 2009 (UTC)Reply

An "Other" category for comments?

Because there are always opinions on issues/features which developers never expect...

I gave this new skin a try, & my primary comment is that I don't like the font. (No, you can't convince me sans serif is better than serif, so we can forget about that discussion.) Is there any plans to allow users to specify their own preferences for fonts in this skin? This is one of my major reasons for staying with the Classic skin -- which occasionally betrays the symptoms of not being ignored, if not unsupported. -- Llywrch 19:24, 9 December 2009 (UTC)Reply

This could easily be done with a gadget - just one line of CSS. Has anyone made such a gadget? If that's not the case I really don't think there should be an option, since obviously not enough people care about it. E.g. on en-wp there are two font gadgets: one that makes text fields use sans-serif and not monospace, and another one that uses DejaVu Sans since it has many characters that perhaps don't exist in the default fonts. So I don't think this option is necessary - you can easily change your vector.css. Skalman 10:59, 4 March 2010 (UTC)Reply

Questions, Design Issues

Where is the 1-n ranked ordered list of design issues plaguing WM/WP-wide services?

  • one 1-n list by the world, one 1-n list by designers/dev team on what they're working on now
    • give me the Netflix distro of design issues

Who is the final arbiter for design decisions?

Who are the paid WM design staff?

My 1-n ranked design issues:

  1. beautiful editing
  2. beautiful layouts
  3. single sign-on across MW/WP services (I've got x number user creds + pages across en.WP to strategy.WM to this site)
  4. Apple-esque install (and O&M) of WM on my own server/da cloud

--Juhan Sonin 3.Mar.2010

Try my script

I'm using the collapsable navigation panel on regular wikipedia, and changed it a bit in my user script http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Albuseer/vector.js or install it as GM script: http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/75896.

The change I made:

  • Fixed the position of the left panel
  • Only one section can by expanded at a time
  • Show the sellected (decided in the script) language only and click the 'more' link to show other rarely used languages.
  • Automatically hide the 2nd level table of contents, show when mouse hovering it
  • Move the edit link to the left, and hide it when mouse is not pointing to it

If you find it good, please help improve it!

-- 13:10, 6 May 2010 (UTC)Reply
I love it! I'll promote it on the French village pump. Dodoïste 14:09, 9 May 2010 (UTC)Reply

"View source" tab

It would really be helpful to get some input from the Usability team at en.wp MediaWiki_talk:Viewsource#Change_View_Source_to_Edit.2A, which concerns changing the "View Source" tab to something more inviting (various arguments given at the destination). Any chance of that? Rd232 09:24, 13 May 2010 (UTC)Reply


Is there a procedure for a specific language project to opt-out the new default interface? Aside of changing MediaWiki:Vector.*s of course. --Nk 06:13, 14 May 2010 (UTC)Reply

I Think to use Javascript (or the other) on the Voting Process

jawp:新機能と直接関係のない話題でしたので、移動しました。ウィキペディア日本語版の利用者のみなさま、ご検討下さい。--青子守歌 2010年6月15日 (火) 12:59 (UTC)
  • Transrated : Since it was new and not directly related topic moved. Dear user of Japanese Wikipedia, please consider.

In This Article is aokomoriuta (jawp) Originally Posted by jawp:井戸端:I_Think_to_use_Javascript_.28or_the_other.29_on_the_Voting_Process .--This Edited and tagged by --MOTOI Kenkichi 14:36, 16 June 2010 (UTC)Reply

Hi,Good wikipedians. New Design that cool and smart.But the one problem that vote process. I think to Voting Process that Difficult for novices...more make easy process. More clearly and you'll probably increase the number of participants in decision making Then vote. Thank you.--基 建吉(MOTOI Kenkichi) 2010年6月15日 (火) 12:24 (UTC)

In This Article is 基 建吉(MOTOI Kenkichi) Originally Posted by jawp:使用性改善/フィードバック(rev.)--This Edited and tagged by --MOTOI Kenkichi 14:36, 16 June 2010 (UTC)Reply

I think his request can/must be solved by MediaWiki Extensions or local wiki's Javascript, but not MediaWiki core (including Usability Initiative) because voting is not necessary for all language Wikipedia - I know some wikipedias need, but I hear there're also some wikis they don't accept voting to build consensus - and how many other non-wikipedia/wikimedia wikis need voting function?--aokomoriuta (jawp) 14:58, 15 June 2010 (UTC)Reply
MediaWiki extensions including
might be useful. --Hatukanezumi 12:47, 16 June 2010 (UTC)Reply

Editiing tables WYSIWYG

Wikipedia really needs a spreadsheet-looking editor (like excel) for tables. A WYSIWYG editor where you can target a cell and edit it's contents. Show the wikicode of the content in a separate bar (like equations in Excel). Are there any one working on this ATM? 10:56, 5 July 2010 (UTC)Reply

(Yes)You think to do.-- 06:49, 6 July 2010 (UTC)Reply

Cross project watchlist

I think we already have the RSS feed for every of our watchlists, but for heavy users with a global account it's not easy to build the sum of all the RSS feed. I mean... I think I would have to go on each project I've been active and ask for the RSS feed. Wikipedia, wikimedia, wiktionnay, wikiversity, wikibooks etc... in any language we have been one day active. Maybe someone asked me a simple question months ago on one of them and I've never been aware of it. It would be helpful to get access of a sum of the RSS feed of all the project of our global account easily. I assume it'll not be too hard to do such a thing. thanks. Iluvalar 02:50, 20 August 2010 (UTC)Reply

How can we get rid of the new surface?

Hi I am one of the bureaucrats at sw:wikipedia. One of these days a new surface appeared and I guess that comes from this project. I am personnally not too fond of it but found out that I can choose a surface similar to the old one (although not the same!). Now I discover a problem that the tutorials we have all refer to the "old buttons". But new users start automatically in the changed surface. I do not think it was ok to push these changes on everybody and also on us without consultation. For us it means that we have to rework all tutorials and check where we have to make changes in explanations. As many of our Swahili users are not too computer savy it is a problem when tutorial says "search window on the left" and now it is different. ETc. We have too few active people and too much work to start unnecessary jobs because of well meant but for our situation not thought-through actions which are being forced on us. So who is the one who switch that feature off for our wikipedia? Kindly react to my talk page at sw-wikipedia User:Kipala on Kiswahili-wikipedia


I'd like to be able to search within a page for certain keywords as sometimes it is very difficult to speed read an article to find the actual reference I'm looking for.